Stupid questions or not..?? Husky 650 Intermittent Stopping

Discussion in 'TR650' started by kiwiape, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. megatiker75 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Italia (Liguria)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZX6R 2001
    The problem is that our bike is now out of production. So because no one will do anything official. Know that the bike is no longer in production because it is no longer the BMW Husqvarna but is passed to a group of KTM. The parent, however, has released an update of the unit, but in my case it has only improved slightly pronblema. But he has not solved. Tired of losing time and do me nervous I bought the Booster Plug. Now the bike is perfect in every weather condition. it is true that the temperature on the display is so wrong but even before it has never been too reliable because of the location of the temperature sensor. Believe me mount the booster plug and forget about it.
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  2. Dutchgit Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW 650 X-Co BMW F650 Dakar
    Install a Microsquirt fuel injection system and you can do all that by yourself using your own laptop !
    It's an option anyway :oldman:
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  3. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)


    Do you own this system? Any information on what is needed to install it on our bikes?
  4. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750

    Here's the thing, yes we can bolt all manner of gizzmos and gadgets, but we are papering over the cracks, so to speak. The ECU's in our bikes is a world leading brand, not a micky duck piece of garbage from timbucktwo. So, why can we just get a new map or change the map in our current units, its a simple matter of finding someone with the know how, and with all of our collective knowledge as owners and users we should be able to do this.
  5. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
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  6. Dutchgit Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW 650 X-Co BMW F650 Dakar

    No I don't have tis system, I did use the "Megasquirt" system however which is designed for use in cars. That was usable with two different maps at the flick of a switch which was handy as I ran it on petrol and LPG (that's "gas" and err, LPG Liquified Petroleum Gas)
    I used that with the original ignition system but you could add ignition to the Megasquirt as well using separate coils for each sparkplug.
    You could drive that and tune it with your laptop altering fuel/air ratios etc. It used a wide band lambda probe.

    Here's the link again: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/microsquirt-engine-management-system-30-wiring-harness-p-131.html

    I'm not really inclined at this point to undertake fitting the MS system as I need to invest in fitting out our bikes for a big trip next year.

    Regards, Ard
  7. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
  8. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    That looks promising. "Adjustment Calibration settings such as: Idle Fuel Trim adjustment, Idle Adjustment"


    Please keep us informed.
  9. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Hasenpfeffer,

    I just sent them an inquiry along with a picture of our ECU with the Model number. I will post up if and when I hear back from them.
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  10. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
  11. megatiker75 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Italia (Liguria)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZX6R 2001
    I know it is a leading brand, but it is completely absorbed by KTM. He also thinks that our bike is a bike economy. I believe that never arrives more support to that already provided to correct the problem. But you've already done the upgrade to the official control of the manufacturer? Many say they have solved all the problems as well. I honestly have only had a miglioramente but my bike was still spegersi. An alternative, in case you want to correct all the carburetion of your bike is fitted the Power Commander and have a good mapping to the bench. Do you take away from all the problems and spend relatively little.

    This would not be a palliative, it would not close the cracks, but perfectly correct fuel mixture.

    http://www.powercommander.it/it/marchio_dettaglio.php?id=67&ids=259
  12. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I got a follow up email from Technoresearch. No help!

    Hi Charles,

    Unfortunately we don’t sell any tools that can tune/remap any Husqvarna. We do have a diagnostic tool, but it is limited to diagnostic features only.

    Regards,

    Marti Pastula
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    Phone: (248) 658-1800
    Website: www.technoresearch.com
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  13. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Guys this is all good stuff......but magnetimarelli.com is a huge company (as I understand), we just need someone who can speak Italian to go to their customer service people and explain our situation and inquire of the options that are available to us...I will spend money too.....I am not asking for anything free.
  14. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    Hey Charlie, how are your persuasion skills? I snooped around again for a possible hacker for the Mag Morelli and ran across this site.

    http://forum.500madness.com/showthread.php?1556-Magneti-Marelli-ECU-tuning-software#.U2BVsSjdv-k

    These guys seem to be able to hack different mag morelli ecu's for fiat. This is just from a random search, and I have no idea how credible or good they are.
  15. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    I'm not known for my tact. Haha.

    Hey I found this though:


    http://ecueditor.com/ Working my way through it now. Trying to see if it might be of any help.

    EDIT: no help here either
  16. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Who lives near here in North Carolina?

    SANFORD - MAGNETI MARELLI POWERTRAIN USA, LLC
    Powertrain
    2101 Nash Street, Sanford P.O. Box 548
    Sanford
    Tel +1 - 919/7764111
    Fax +1 - 919/7756337

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  17. megatiker75 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Italia (Liguria)
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZX6R 2001
    I still do not understand why not opt for the solution of the power commander. With one connected in series with the original file unit can vary a multitude of carburetion parameters to your liking. And it can always be done to suit your needs.
  18. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Your right, but its just one more thing to go wrong and from what I can gather (please correct me if I am wrong) its a "dumb" system and cant adjust by itself unless you add the Autotune as well, where as the OEM unit is continually adjusting it just needs a tweak for little more juice....
  19. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Thanks for this, I will phone these guys tomorrow.
  20. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)

    I'm retired military on a military pension and budget. Besides, I have already paid for the Magneti Marelli ECU. If we can gain access to tuning it then we can eliminate the cost of a new Power Commander and autotune. The PC and AT are $465 usd at MotoMummy and that is the cheapest I can find it.